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Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:03:00 - [1] I must be the odd one out, because I feel safer in 0.4 and lower than I do in 0.5 and higher. As for the story...get a corp worth a ****. Yes, Sentries are underpowered. And HACs are not uber ships, they just take awhile to kill. Oh and you made a few mistakes. First of all, you didn't leave the 0.4 system asap (never make a living in a gateway system, find one deeper into low sec), you left the station while the Vaga was waiting for you to leave, and your biggest mistake was not being prepared to deal with unfriendly people. Also, 0.5+ is by no means risk free. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:16:00 - [2] Originally by: Polinus The problem is not that. The main problem is that I was kept locked in a system unabel to run for 1 week. Every time I tried I got killed. They had every gate camped? You couldnt fit a setup that could slip passed them? Quote: And Players with ridiculowsly powerfull stuff go just grief weak players instaed of going do something interesting. What is the fun of pursuing noobs in 0.4 in a machariel? "If you run, they have to chase you. It's their way." And Faction BSes are nice...but far from 'ridiculously powerful'. Quote: And yes there ISeasy mode on eve!! That machariel was playing on easy mode. That is the problem the easy mode is only for players that are in game for 3 years! And also there is the ultra easy mode on empire. I have a motto you might like: "If I lose a ship, it was my fault." This one is good too after you setup a ship: "This thing is an explosion that hasn't happened yet." Quote: I don't want an easy mode. I want an AVERAGE mode. Ant reasonable game designer is able to do so. I worked (DEVELOPER) in other MMOs and on that aspect EVE is one of the worst!!! You gave him the kill. And crediting yourself with being a dev in lesser mmos is like saying you are a person who helped ** over the mmo industry...and was proud of it. Quote: Any reasonable game design tries to keep all the players with chance to have fun. Eve gives you all of the tools you need to survive, build, and destroy in the galaxy. Which one you do is also up to you. Quote:** And I don want to play in an uber corps. I ddid that in past with other account and left game becasue tehre was no fun to be on a gagn where you are almost just an spectator... I am in a corps of all sub 2 million SP so we can have fun together on same level. There is no 'same level' in Eve. Unless noobness is a level. I can understand why you wouldn't want to join a good corp...but it doesn't sound like you have ever been in one...so why not give it a shot? ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:17:00 - [3] Originally by: Polinus I think you all dont get the poitn. That is not a simple whine. Its a critiscism of how EVE dois not contemplate a reasonable time frame on the life of a character. When you are over 2 weeks old. no lvl 1 mission will give you any fun. And you are still too far form lvl 2 missions ( on the rythim I was going it would take 3 months to reach level 2 missions). So no chalange at one point... so you try to find something more fun to do. But there is no.. " a bit more difficult" place to have fun. There is nothing fun in 0.5 and above.. nothing.. until i can unloack level 2 agents.. and I dont want to pay just do do NOT FUN things!! EVE must insert contents for this level of paying. Cause that is one of reaosn so many accounts are short lived. Grab a Rifter and go kill players in low sec if you want fun. Dying is going to happen, it's all part of what makes Eve great. You risk something to get something. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Noluck Ned 6. I am sorry the guy destroyed your cans too, that is just plain griefing. I disagree with you. It isn't griefing to kill a loot can. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Eddie Stobart Eve is full of griefers, players who's only purpose in game is to spoil yours. If you can't live with that then I wouldnt bother playing. At weekend I was mining in safe empire in my Hulk when a group of caracals warped in and blew my ship. They gained 0 isk from doing this in fact it cost them 4 caracals & fittings but they know it cost me 500mill and thats why they did it. I have since war decked the corp and the cowards all left and formed another corp so I have war decked that one, chances are I will never get to kill them because they will just keep forming new corps on a daily basis. And a War dec takes 48hrs before you can fight. Petition them for exploiting the war declaration system. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Polinus But if i dont find frigate flying fun? I am condeemed to several months of no fun gaming? If there were Cruiser class targets in 0.5 and above I would stay there. If at least I could reach missions where i could face cruiser.. .. but that would take a loong time And I am not bothered when I am jumped by a rupture or a BS on ar interceptor. But a machariel just to destroy the cans is just #&!@#*!@&#!(@!!! And my 800k SP character is all on combat skills, cruiser V 4 gunnery 5 medium guns 4 maxed armor skills. So it should be possible to fly a cruiser reasonably. And what is teh difference on0.4 and 0.1? Why not make the 0.4 sentries much more powerfull? I dont find frigates all that fun either. But I use them when the situation warrants them. As in traveling, light cargo hauls, and scouting. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 17:09:00 - [7] One last thing from me Polinus, I respect you for not wanting to join the weak and lazy 'elite' by not using instas. I have survived low sec and 0.0 for years without them, you can too. It just takes more patience and brain power. Just as a note, asking CCP to proactively help you just because you are new, simply won't work. Eve stands above other mmos because that is exactly what CCP won't do. In Eve you stand or fall on your own merits. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 17:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Polinus Originally by: Thor Xian One last thing from me Polinus, I respect you for not wanting to join the weak and lazy 'elite' by not using instas. I have survived low sec and 0.0 for years without them, you can too. It just takes more patience and brain power. Just as a note, asking CCP to proactively help you just because you are new, simply won't work. Eve stands above other mmos because that is exactly what CCP won't do. In Eve you stand or fall on your own merits. its not just help me.. its more about help a new player transition to be more smooth. Very few people have time to spend in game. And if they gonna pay 3 months of game subscription to get pwoned everytime or stay at no fun zone. Lots of them will get bored. I worked ina an MMO that died form that same reason. Evew was lucky to grow fast enough to hold its feet and not have same doom. You right, but the solution is to make hi sec more dangerous, not low sec less dangerous. 1.0 100% chance CONCORD will show up 0.9 090% " 0.8 080% " 0.7 070% " 0.6 060% " 0.5 050% " That may not be the solution, but I think it should matter whether it is a 1.0 or a 0.5 system. The reason the transition to low sec is so abrupt is because you probably entered it through a gateway system (such as Amamake) that is infamous for pirates already. There are other less pirate infested low sec. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.16 19:28:00 - [9] I can count on one hand the low sec systems that are camped 'more often than not'. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."

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